We recently received the following comment on one of ML’s posts, specifically her post on breath control. Here is the comment from Dedicatedtoher:
Please explain to me how you can get sexual pleasure from hurting someone you love/ Where is the pleasure , the joy in hurting him? Even if he is a masochist, you have the ability to step back and say: “This I cannot do. I get no pleasure from hurting you” Your sexual thrill from inflicting pain on your husband is something I find difficult to understand. I am happy sadism does not work for my wife and I
Both of us have things we would like to say in response to this. So here is your “He Said, She Said” installment of “Mail Chastity” (or vice versa, whichever tickles your fancy).
Lady M: Thank you so much for your comment and question. I would like to first point out that I do NOT like to hurt my husband nor do I get pleasure from it. I do love his reaction to some slight pain like pinching nipples, nails on his back or balls or even a spanking. I do believe those are all pretty common ways people create a pain sensation to get a reaction from their partner. As I said, I do not enjoy actually hurting him whatsoever. Since it is the Breath Play post in particular that you are referring to, I want to say that at no time during our play like this do I hurt or intentionally cause him pain. If that were to happen, with a misplaced thumb or something, I stop immediately and adjust. I’m actually terrified of accidentally hurting him and often cut play short sometimes. Breath play is not about pain and has everything to do with the control of his consciousness. That I do love, I love the control I have over him. I love seeing his glossed over eyes as he is slipping off into his dreamy state. That does give me a sexual charge and my crotch is instantly sopping wet and drippy. It really is not painful to experience this but rather relaxing and calm I would imagine.
I hope this helps explain it a bit and as I always say, not everyone will ever enjoy the same things when it comes to most things in life. Although… maybe bacon… everyone, except Cagemonkey, likes bacon! 🙂
Cagedmonkey: First, let me say thank you for the comment. It’s a great question, but I’d like to thank you for being so respectful. Although you may not understand or agree with the things we do, I appreciate your mature attitude towards addressing it. 🙂
I’ll start by saying that there is a big difference between “pain” and “hurt.” When ML pinches my nipples just a teeny bit too hard, that’s pain. When she leans the wrong way and kneels on my ankle or whatever, that hurts. I don’t get any sexual thrill from being hurt. Pain, yes, I find exciting. But there have been instances in the past where ML has accidentally hurt me, and we’ve stopped immediately and addressed the situation (and most likely laughed it off afterwards).
The pain itself isn’t a turn on. What turns me on is the control that is involved. ML can make me feel whatever she wants me to feel; whether that be pleasure, pain, or anywhere in the middle. I love that she can cause these sensations, and I love that I cannot fight them.
With all of that said, the asphyxiation/choking/breath play isn’t as painful as you may think it is. Again, it’s about control: My Lady controls my air supply, and along with that my ability to stay conscious. It’s actually somewhat peaceful, slipping away slowly like that. The worst thing I’d say I experience is fear as I get closer to blacking out, but I trust ML absolutely and completely.
I hope this helps shed some light on why we find this type of play erotic and exciting. It’s definitely not for everyone, but no kink really is. What works for us may not work for you. But what’s important is that it works for us. 🙂
Well said both of you!
I would never hurt elliot; but I am delighted to create sensations which he both hates and enjoys. When I cane him I will usually leave welts and, from time to time , there may be bruising and even speckles of blood where the cane lines cross. He winces and vocalizes as I whip him which makes sense as the cane stings. He has trouble sitting down for a day or two after a serious caning and the marks can last for a week or two.
He is never more loving nor prouder to be a man in his position than when he has endured a caning and wears my marks. The caning itself releases all sorts of neuro chemicals and, more to the point, stress and tension. The aftermath gives him the profound sense of being loved and cherished which he craves. Transient pain is nothing, he says, compared to the sense of being mine.
Hannah Jay,
Thank so much for your comment… good Lord you said that beautifully! 🙂
Just for perspective on “hurting”, a lot of people enjoy participating in sports. For example, I enjoy road cycling. I’ve often headed out “Just for 20 miles or so” and end up coming home at twice that, legs quivering, lungs on fire, and my arms sore. Nobody questions whether or not I enjoy cycling, the underlying assumption is that when you push yourself physically, sometimes it hurts.
Likewise, some of the painful aspects of sex are a way that we push ourselves (even when we ask our partners to do the hurting). It’s not cruel, it’s a way to push personal boundaries for a pleasurable outcome.
Thanks so much for your comment Tom!
Boy we sure do have some intelligent followers and readers. I love all the different views on things. Thank you!